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Ismail
Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:26 PM


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A summit has been called for in Sarajevo between Serbian, Croatian, and Muslim representatives, including Milošević, Tuđman and Izetbegović. Veljko Kadijević, Yugoslav Minister of Defense and originator of the idea of a summit, has instead advocated for it to be held at Kupari, a known holiday resort for the Yugoslav Peoples Army, presumably to give the armed forces greater influence in its deliberations.

The 14th Congress of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia is set to be held later in the month, and the announcement of the summit has been perceived by some federation officials as an attempt to undermine the Congress' proceedings and authority.


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Ofarrell1998
Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:36 PM


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The Bosnian government agreed to attend such a summit as a show of good faith, in order to try and calm the rising tide of nationalism throughout the nation. However, Yugoslavia is not a military government. The military has no place within the government of our nation, and we will not allow them to dictate where we have summits. The summit will take place in Sarajevo, or we will not be attending.


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Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:39 PM


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Serbia suggests we go with what Croatia and Bosnia have said which is Sarajevo.


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Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:41 PM


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The Croatian government sees no need in changing the location of the summit from Sarajevo to Kupari. This is clearly an attempt of the Yugoslav People's Army to influence the outcome of the summit.
We will only be in attendance if the summit is held in Sarajevo. We do not wish to be influenced by military forces during what we were told would be a peaceful summit.


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Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:47 PM


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I'm happy for Sarajevo as a location. Kupari was only suggested as a location that allows privacy so as not to distract from the discussion.

I need to remind everyone that Yugoslav Peoples Army is actually a part of government and Presidency of Yugoslavia. Any effort to deny this can be seen as an attack on the constitution of the country.


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Posted: Mar 10 2017, 06:53 PM


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QUOTE (Bonzai @ Mar 10 2017, 06:47 PM)
I'm happy for Sarajevo as a location. Kupari was only suggested as a location that allows privacy so as not to distract from the discussion.

I need to remind everyone that Yugoslav Peoples Army is actually a part of government and Presidency of Yugoslavia. Any effort to deny this can be seen as an attack on the constitution of the country.

Please cite the part of the Yugoslav constitution that states the military is to be part of the People's government.


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Bonzai
Posted: Mar 11 2017, 12:33 AM


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QUOTE (Ofarrell1998 @ Mar 10 2017, 06:53 PM)
QUOTE (Bonzai @ Mar 10 2017, 06:47 PM)
I'm happy for Sarajevo as a location. Kupari was only suggested as a location that allows privacy so as not to distract from the discussion.

I need to remind everyone that Yugoslav Peoples Army is actually a part of government and Presidency of Yugoslavia. Any effort to deny this can be seen as an attack on the constitution of the country.

Please cite the part of the Yugoslav constitution that states the military is to be part of the People's government.

The role of the Yugoslav Peoples Army in Yugoslav society and government is self evident. Since 1980 Yugoslav Peoples Army has had a seat on the Presidency Council which governs the Yugoslav Federation. Almost all male Yugoslav citizens have gone through military service in the Yugoslav Peoples Army. The army constitutes a significant employer across every Yugoslav Republic and Territory. The 1974 constitution reinforces the role of the army in safeguarding the people and integrity of the state. (OOC the Yugoslav Peoples Army was unofficially considered as the 7th Republic of the Yugoslav Federation).

Comrade Izetbegović, you are more than welcome to research this further yourself. Surely as a lawyer by profession, you don't need a simple soldier to be telling you about the Yugoslav political-legal system.


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Ofarrell1998
Posted: Mar 11 2017, 03:19 AM


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Sir, the burden of truth lies on your shoulders. The 1974 constitution says nothing of the army governing and legislating on behalf of the Yugoslav people. What has happened in the past is not what will necessarily be allowed to continue in the future. Considering it is not a constitutional issue, I woild ask you not to lecture me on the laws of our nation.


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Ismail
Posted: Mar 11 2017, 05:43 AM


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With Sarajevo decided upon, the summit convenes. The immediate issue is what level of autonomy the republics should have, i.e. whether to retain the current federation with some reforms or move to a confederation in which each republic's laws are largely sovereign over Yugoslav ones. The bulk of representatives from Slovenia and Croatia are in favor of the latter solution.


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Posted: Mar 11 2017, 06:25 AM


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As a representative of the Yugoslav Peoples Army, I am keen to hear more details regarding any proposals. Would Slovene and Croatian delegates be able to present any details on a confederation model?


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Posted: Mar 11 2017, 06:30 AM


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QUOTE (Bonzai @ Mar 11 2017, 06:25 AM)
As a representative of the Yugoslav Peoples Army, I am keen to hear more details regarding any proposals. Would Slovene and Croatian delegates be able to present any details on a confederation model?

The Slovenian delegation replies that they envision each republic as fully sovereign, with its own foreign and defense policies including the ability to apply for membership in the EEC. Many in the Croatian delegation, it is believed including Tuđman himself, have the same conception of what a confederation would look like.


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Posted: Mar 11 2017, 06:34 AM


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I thank the Slovenian delegation. What elements would the confederation level government be responsible for and what would it look like (ie what would be the difference between confederation and completely independent states)?


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Posted: Mar 11 2017, 06:38 AM


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QUOTE (Bonzai @ Mar 11 2017, 06:34 AM)
I thank the Slovenian delegation. What elements would the confederation level government be responsible for and what would it look like (ie what would be the difference between confederation and completely independent states)?

The Slovenian delegations reply that more precise details are to be discussed here at this summit, and will wait for Tuđman to speak.

The delegation also argues that an agreement must be based on consensus and that none of this is binding, as most of the participants are not government officials. This summit is simply to help the peoples of Yugoslavia reach common ground. The future of Yugoslav unity will have to be decided between the republican governments following elections held this year.


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Bonzai
Posted: Mar 11 2017, 06:55 AM


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QUOTE (Ismail @ Mar 11 2017, 06:38 AM)
QUOTE (Bonzai @ Mar 11 2017, 06:34 AM)
I thank the Slovenian delegation. What elements would the confederation level government be responsible for and what would it look like (ie what would be the difference between confederation and completely independent states)?

The Slovenian delegations reply that more precise details are to be discussed here at this summit, and will wait for Tuđman to speak.

The delegation also argues that an agreement must be based on consensus and that none of this is binding, as most of the participants are not government officials. This summit is simply to help the peoples of Yugoslavia reach common ground. The future of Yugoslav unity will have to be decided between the republican governments following elections held this year.

Of course. Thank you.

Perhaps it may be helpful fior summit delegates to discuss the most pressing issues facing them currently to help identify areas needing reforms. For example, are economic structures the primary problem or is the need for independent foreign policy more pressing (I'm just picking two examples).

This post has been edited by Bonzai on Mar 11 2017, 07:03 AM


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Posted: Mar 11 2017, 12:03 PM


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The Bosnian delegation would like to put forward these motions for the future of the Bosnian state:

1) Each republic is fully Autonomous, with the right to establish its own laws and regulations. With this beung said, there will also be a need for each republic to have its own legislature that passes laws in the area.

2) Full control of the Republics economy and economic regulation.

3) The ability for each republic to establish its own ties with outside nations.

4) All Republics must respect the territorial boundries of the other Republics


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